Comments on: Find Out How Much Fluoride Is In Your Tap Water http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/ A Dental Blog Focused on Improving Oral and Dental Health Sun, 05 Feb 2012 02:02:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tom http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-7987 Tom Thu, 21 Jul 2011 02:51:05 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-7987 Hi Kirk - It is scientifically supported that fluoride does prevent cavities. if you want to fight against water fluoridation, there are many good arguments to use. Check out my article on <a href="http://www.oralanswers.com/2011/01/top-10-reasons-to-oppose-water-fluoridation/" rel="nofollow">the top 10 reasons to oppose water fluoridation</a> if you're looking for inspiration. I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for your comment, Kirk! Hi Kirk - It is scientifically supported that fluoride does prevent cavities. if you want to fight against water fluoridation, there are many good arguments to use. Check out my article on the top 10 reasons to oppose water fluoridation if you're looking for inspiration.

I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for your comment, Kirk!

]]> By: kirk http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-7960 kirk Wed, 20 Jul 2011 04:04:55 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-7960 Ok Flouride is not good for you, you want water with no fluoride, its a myth about it preventing cavities. It is making you stupid is what it is doing. Just do a search online for Fluoride dangers and you will see your government is poisoning you. We need to see a Fluoride Free water bottle company or a Fluoride Filter. Stay away from Flouride, it is dangerous and anyone who says otherwise is wrong and need to do their research. Ok Flouride is not good for you, you want water with no fluoride, its a myth about it preventing cavities. It is making you stupid is what it is doing. Just do a search online for Fluoride dangers and you will see your government is poisoning you. We need to see a Fluoride Free water bottle company or a Fluoride Filter. Stay away from Flouride, it is dangerous and anyone who says otherwise is wrong and need to do their research.

]]> By: Tom http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-4930 Tom Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:10:30 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-4930 Hi Alex - I have done a tremendous amount of research regarding water fluoridation. You can read more of <a href="http://www.oralanswers.com/category/fluoride/" rel="nofollow">what I've written about fluoride here</a>. In response to your first claim, I had already written an article called <a href="http://www.oralanswers.com/2010/12/toxic-waste-fluoride-water-fluoridation/" rel="nofollow"><em>Is Water Fluoridated with Toxic Waste?</em></a>. I agree that people in positions of authority can be wrong. You do make some compelling points, but I disagree that fluoride is a big "cover up." Thanks for your comment, Alex! Hi Alex - I have done a tremendous amount of research regarding water fluoridation. You can read more of what I've written about fluoride here.

In response to your first claim, I had already written an article called Is Water Fluoridated with Toxic Waste?.

I agree that people in positions of authority can be wrong. You do make some compelling points, but I disagree that fluoride is a big "cover up."

Thanks for your comment, Alex!

]]> By: Alex http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-4927 Alex Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:14:00 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-4927 I was wondering if you had done any research at all? It would seem that 98% of Western Europe has no Fluoride in their water and yet they have just as healthy teeth as we do, with 66% of our water Fluoridated. Also the Fluoride that is being added to our water is industrial waste, not pharmaceutical grade Fluoride. Just as the gasoline industry said that it was ok for lead to be in our gas, which lead to children having brain damage, can't we say that the dental industry, the aluminum industry, and other industries involved in this huge cover up, are just trying no to be wrong, when there is research out there proving that Fluoride causes hypothyroidism, and hyperactivity in prenatal rats and hypo-activity in post natal? I have done some extensive research and it turns out that the ingestion of Fluoride leads to nothing but adverse side effects. Also, it doesn't matter what ppm you ingest because Fluoride accumulates in your body over time, only 50% is excreted in the urine, the rest is absorbed by your bones and other organs. So just because somebody who claims to have authority i.e. A professor, a dentist, a doctor, a politician it doesn't mean they are automatically concluded to be right in everything they say. Also, there seems to be a new correlation between people having less cavities when the water Fluoridation in decreased or stopped, so how can anybody say that Fluoride is in any way biologically and medically necessary? Plus, we are not given a choice in if we want Fluoride in our water. They just put it in, to quote one doctor, "No physician in his right senses would prescribe for a person he has never met, whose medical history he does not know, a substance which is intended to create bodily change, with the advice: 'Take as much as you like, but you will take it for the rest of your life because some children suffer from tooth decay.’ It is a preposterous notion." So why can't we just let people choose what they want to put into their own body? http://www.fluoridealert.org/50-reasons.htm http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/releases/2001/mar01/flouride.html http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7319752042352089988&hl=en# I was wondering if you had done any research at all? It would seem that 98% of Western Europe has no Fluoride in their water and yet they have just as healthy teeth as we do, with 66% of our water Fluoridated. Also the Fluoride that is being added to our water is industrial waste, not pharmaceutical grade Fluoride. Just as the gasoline industry said that it was ok for lead to be in our gas, which lead to children having brain damage, can't we say that the dental industry, the aluminum industry, and other industries involved in this huge cover up, are just trying no to be wrong, when there is research out there proving that Fluoride causes hypothyroidism, and hyperactivity in prenatal rats and hypo-activity in post natal? I have done some extensive research and it turns out that the ingestion of Fluoride leads to nothing but adverse side effects. Also, it doesn't matter what ppm you ingest because Fluoride accumulates in your body over time, only 50% is excreted in the urine, the rest is absorbed by your bones and other organs. So just because somebody who claims to have authority i.e. A professor, a dentist, a doctor, a politician it doesn't mean they are automatically concluded to be right in everything they say. Also, there seems to be a new correlation between people having less cavities when the water Fluoridation in decreased or stopped, so how can anybody say that Fluoride is in any way biologically and medically necessary? Plus, we are not given a choice in if we want Fluoride in our water. They just put it in, to quote one doctor, "No physician in his right senses would prescribe for a person he has never met, whose medical history he does not know, a substance which is intended to create bodily change, with the advice: 'Take as much as you like, but you will take it for the rest of your life because some children suffer from tooth decay.’ It is a preposterous notion." So why can't we just let people choose what they want to put into their own body?

http://www.fluoridealert.org/50-reasons.htm
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/releases/2001/mar01/flouride.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7319752042352089988&hl=en#

]]> By: Mary Sparrowdancer http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-29 Mary Sparrowdancer Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:02:12 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-29 Fluoride is causal. There should be no fluoride added onto Americans in any way. The oceans have dealt with fluoride with calcium and magnesium in order to keep it less than lethal. No one should be adding toxic fluoride to the municipal drinking waters, period. For some time, certain public schools were adding fluoride to the children's water at 4.5 times the dose allowed for municipal fluoridation. The CDC has told me "we do not keep records on this any longer." This has all been a very bad experiment on innocent people. Fluoride is causal. There should be no fluoride added onto Americans in any way. The oceans have dealt with fluoride with calcium and magnesium in order to keep it less than lethal. No one should be adding toxic fluoride to the municipal drinking waters, period. For some time, certain public schools were adding fluoride to the children's water at 4.5 times the dose allowed for municipal fluoridation. The CDC has told me "we do not keep records on this any longer." This has all been a very bad experiment on innocent people.

]]> By: Mary Sparrowdancer http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-28 Mary Sparrowdancer Sat, 27 Feb 2010 03:44:45 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-28 I'm not sure where you live, but try to phone some local labs and ask, yourself, if you can have your urine checked for fluoride. I'd like to learn of the responses you receive. Thanks. I'm not sure where you live, but try to phone some local labs and ask, yourself, if you can have your urine checked for fluoride. I'd like to learn of the responses you receive. Thanks.

]]> By: Mary Sparrowdancer http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-27 Mary Sparrowdancer Sat, 27 Feb 2010 03:42:24 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-27 If the ADA is focused on health, then why haven't they done anything to bring this about? No one should be delivering any sort of fluoride to ANYONE. The ADA have misled people for many years. If the ADA is focused on health, then why haven't they done anything to bring this about? No one should be delivering any sort of fluoride to ANYONE. The ADA have misled people for many years.

]]> By: Mary Sparrowdancer http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-26 Mary Sparrowdancer Sat, 27 Feb 2010 03:39:33 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-26 Thanks Tom for answering. I will be happy to answer everything tomorrow. The bottom line is that once fluoride has gone through you, it damages everything and then might leave no trace. The only "visible" signs of it are tooth mottling. The rest of the damage has already been done to soft tissues and bones. It's a killer, and it is the "darling" of toxins for Big Pharma, because it causes problems in every system in the body, thus causing people to pay $ Billions in pharmaceuticals to treat symptoms. No, my friend is not better. He was poisoned on December 21st, 2009, and he is still sick, but thank you for your kind thoughts. He is only 42 years old and was in robust health before this fluoride poisoning took place. His case is going to set precendt. I hope it will blow fluoride out of the water, and out of everything else. It's about time. We never needed fluoride until we began manufacturing atomic bombs. Then, we had a sudden excess of it. Humans never needed it before then. I will be happy to debate anyone about fluoride. Thanks Tom for answering. I will be happy to answer everything tomorrow. The bottom line is that once fluoride has gone through you, it damages everything and then might leave no trace. The only "visible" signs of it are tooth mottling. The rest of the damage has already been done to soft tissues and bones. It's a killer, and it is the "darling" of toxins for Big Pharma, because it causes problems in every system in the body, thus causing people to pay $ Billions in pharmaceuticals to treat symptoms. No, my friend is not better. He was poisoned on December 21st, 2009, and he is still sick, but thank you for your kind thoughts. He is only 42 years old and was in robust health before this fluoride poisoning took place. His case is going to set precendt. I hope it will blow fluoride out of the water, and out of everything else. It's about time. We never needed fluoride until we began manufacturing atomic bombs. Then, we had a sudden excess of it. Humans never needed it before then. I will be happy to debate anyone about fluoride.

]]> By: Tom http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-25 Tom Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:43:00 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-25 That's true. Thank you for pointing this out! <a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TGF-4KHJK5M-1&_user=10&_coverDate=04%2F02%2F2007&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=2304947f30a7d5c709dc9545cbe79dcb" rel="nofollow">Here's a study that shows many different routes of exposure to fluoride</a> and mentions absorption sublingually (under the tongue.) That's true. Thank you for pointing this out!

Here's a study that shows many different routes of exposure to fluoride and mentions absorption sublingually (under the tongue.)

]]> By: Tom http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Tom Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:38:20 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-24 I should have been a little more clear in my response above when I said that fluoride has only been implicated in causing mottled enamel. I was referring to water fluoridation, which is what this article is talking about. Of course, if a child eats a tube of toothpaste, or someone ingests toxic amounts of fluoride, it could cause death in extreme circumstances. It is important to note that pretty much <em>anything</em> can cause death when ingested in high quantities. There is such a thing as <a href="https://health.google.com/health/ref/Hypervitaminosis+A" rel="nofollow">Vitamin A toxicity</a>. Also, a few years back, <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16614865/" rel="nofollow">a woman died while participating in a water drinking contest to win a Nintendo Wii</a>. I do find it interesting that no routine tests are done for fluoride poisoning, especially after someone died from it... I should have been a little more clear in my response above when I said that fluoride has only been implicated in causing mottled enamel. I was referring to water fluoridation, which is what this article is talking about. Of course, if a child eats a tube of toothpaste, or someone ingests toxic amounts of fluoride, it could cause death in extreme circumstances.

It is important to note that pretty much anything can cause death when ingested in high quantities. There is such a thing as Vitamin A toxicity. Also, a few years back, a woman died while participating in a water drinking contest to win a Nintendo Wii.

I do find it interesting that no routine tests are done for fluoride poisoning, especially after someone died from it...

]]> By: Tom http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-23 Tom Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:31:57 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-23 Thank you for that link, Mary. I did enjoy that article. Since the fluoride that caused the fluorosis in that study was from "natural sources", do you think that they should de-fluoridate those water sources that contain fluoride naturally? I quoted part of their study below for those who have not read it. The study did find an association between fluorosis and periodontitis. I think more studies should be done to find out whether it is also a causal relationship. I do believe there could be many consequences of fluoride that we just haven't discovered yet. <blockquote> As the degree of dental fluorosis increased, periodontitis (advanced gum infection) increased. "The results suggest that there is a strong association of occurrence of periodontal disease in high-fluoride areas," write Vandana and Reddy. "Surprisingly, studies have not paid attention to the periodontal status in high-fluoride areas from a research perspective," the authors write. "In addition to inflammatory process, which remains common to high- and low-fluoride areas, the fluorosis induced changes in hard and soft tissues of periodontium requires … attention to suspect fluoride as an etiological (environmental) agent for periodontal disease," the authors conclude.</blockquote> Thank you for that link, Mary. I did enjoy that article. Since the fluoride that caused the fluorosis in that study was from "natural sources", do you think that they should de-fluoridate those water sources that contain fluoride naturally?

I quoted part of their study below for those who have not read it. The study did find an association between fluorosis and periodontitis. I think more studies should be done to find out whether it is also a causal relationship. I do believe there could be many consequences of fluoride that we just haven't discovered yet.

As the degree of dental fluorosis increased, periodontitis (advanced gum infection) increased. "The results suggest that there is a strong association of occurrence of periodontal disease in high-fluoride areas," write Vandana and Reddy.

"Surprisingly, studies have not paid attention to the periodontal status in high-fluoride areas from a research perspective," the authors write.

"In addition to inflammatory process, which remains common to high- and low-fluoride areas, the fluorosis induced changes in hard and soft tissues of periodontium requires … attention to suspect fluoride as an etiological (environmental) agent for periodontal disease," the authors conclude.

]]> By: Tom http://www.OralAnswers.com/2010/02/find-out-how-much-fluoride-is-in-your-tap-water/comment-page-1/#comment-22 Tom Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:25:59 +0000 http://www.OralAnswers.com/?p=133#comment-22 Thank you for the insightful comments, Mary. I wouldn't say that the ADA are used car salesmen, I believe that they are an organization that is focused on improving oral health nationwide. Numerous studies do show the effectiveness of fluoride. Please provide a link to the fluoride study in Kentucky. I do think that perhaps water fluoridation is not as effective as it was purported to be decades ago. I think it is important to remember that children in the United States have been increasingly eating more and more sugar. Fluoride can't protect the teeth if they are constantly being attacked by the acid that the oral bacteria produce upon digesting sugar. I am sorry to hear about your friend. No dentist should be giving lethal doses. Have your friend's kidneys recovered or was the damage permanent? I have looked over the National Academies' book on fluoride. I do hope to read it, eventually. Water fluoridation is a subject that interests me. I have stated that I am not sure if water should be fluoridated -- I am still trying to read up about the different arguments that are made regarding this issue. Thank you for the insightful comments, Mary.

I wouldn't say that the ADA are used car salesmen, I believe that they are an organization that is focused on improving oral health nationwide. Numerous studies do show the effectiveness of fluoride. Please provide a link to the fluoride study in Kentucky. I do think that perhaps water fluoridation is not as effective as it was purported to be decades ago. I think it is important to remember that children in the United States have been increasingly eating more and more sugar. Fluoride can't protect the teeth if they are constantly being attacked by the acid that the oral bacteria produce upon digesting sugar.

I am sorry to hear about your friend. No dentist should be giving lethal doses. Have your friend's kidneys recovered or was the damage permanent?

I have looked over the National Academies' book on fluoride. I do hope to read it, eventually. Water fluoridation is a subject that interests me. I have stated that I am not sure if water should be fluoridated -- I am still trying to read up about the different arguments that are made regarding this issue.

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